Hi all , Only really ever use this to talk about my cats but I have an issue with one of my royals , his a fire morph about 8 months old but since I got him in August he has refused every meal I have tried everything rats ,mice, malters senting food with chicks , assisted feeding (he regurged) , head cutting the only thing I've not tried is live feeding & it's something I will not attempt as its inhuman to the animal . I've recently just brought some reptoboast to try help stimulate him but NOTHING is working Now I know from many years of experience royals can be a pain when it comes to eating but never have a come across one that is this stubborn he is empty his spin is showing his got a rectangle back & has lost 100g since I got him I'm at my wits end with what to do ! Any suggestions with be muchly appreciated
Sorry I have absolutely no knowledge of any pets that are in this area of the forum and the only person that springs to mind who may be able to chat to you is cat001 . Wish you well chelsea90 and hope this thread gets looked at soon
I know I'll be quite late replying to this thread (sorry) but i'll reply anyway as it may be useful information...
Unfortunately assisted feeding quite often results in regurgitation from a snake that's persistently unwilling to eat. I found an excellent video on the subject of force feeding some time ago which explains some important key points such as; when to do it, the procedure you need to follow, and highlights how stressful the process is so emphasises the importance of only doing this when absolutely necessary...
Excessive stress is dangerous and can cause more harm than good, because of the stressfulness of the process I'd recommend gavage feeding to such a debilitated animal as an alternative to feeding a whole prey item. Gavaging is less stressful, quicker and safer. I'd suggest discussing this with the vet, they will provide you with the equipment and a demonstration on the process as well as specific requirements for your snake (Emeraid Carnivore is fed 1/2% of body weight on day 1, 1% on day 2 and 2% on day 3 and there after - so amount fed is relative to body weight). The main danger with gavage feeding is accidentally putting the tube down the wind pipe instead of the oesophagus. This however, is difficult to do as the wind pipe is located at the very front of the mouth and usually closes when the mouth is open. Just double check before you begin syringing to make sure.
Young animals in particular require support as they lack the reserves of a mature animal so cannot go as long without eating. Seeing as the spine is beginning show I'd say intervention is certainly justified.
If the animal is dehydrated (loose skin) than it may require hydrating first (provide moist hide, water with reptoboost, possibly even baths). Make sure the animal is in a calm quite area to reduce stress as much as possible; plenty of hiding spots and coverage, is infrequently disturbed and only handled when necessary. Also make sure the temperatures are warm enough and if you have a lamp, put the basking spot up to a max of 35C, this can sometimes encourage a feeding response.
With gavage feeding, the solution won't be so much that the snake won't accept food if it's starting to return to normal, so you can still occasionally offer a mouse and the snake may choose to accept if it's feeling better. You can also see if you can get ahold of feeder gerbils as gerbils are more a natural prey item to Royal's than mice, and sometimes elicit a stronger feeding response.
tonib: Sounds like it was a good job we didn't have Roman as a kitten then. He's never misbehaved like that, only his first Xmas with us when he half-inched the stuffing! - I hope that's not famous last words!
Jul 20, 2018 12:47:00 GMT
tonib: Lexie is another matter but usually not breakables - except potentially of herself when she fell behind the large display cabinet/sideboard on being left alone for the 1st time in our dining room aged 2.5 years!!!
Jul 20, 2018 13:27:50 GMT
tonib: She jumped on top (via the table I believe) & managed to fall between it & the wall & appeared to be suspended by her head part way down (the gap narrowed!) I had to get a burly neighbour in to help move it, quickly moving weight/breakables as pos. 1st
Jul 20, 2018 13:34:33 GMT
tonib: She was fine but got checked by vet just in case! That was a heart stopping time, especially her cries!
Jul 20, 2018 13:34:59 GMT
lotsofcats: I can remember when that happened with Lexi.
Jul 20, 2018 18:56:39 GMT
tonib: You've got a good memory, that was in 2012 I posted on the old YC forum
Jul 20, 2018 21:51:09 GMT
Gillykat: Wooohoooo updated piccies of the two new girls been sent.....they look adorable....and as tthough they'll boss Monty around summik rotten! My poor wee man
Jul 25, 2018 19:23:44 GMT
Gillykat: Listen! Can you hear that? SILENCE!!! The three ninjas are all asleep I shall enjoy it whilst it lasts
Aug 3, 2018 8:37:19 GMT
lotsofcats: It won't be for long. When I had kittens I just used to sit and watch them for ages - are you doing that yet?
Aug 3, 2018 11:09:00 GMT
Gillykat: Oh yes......just drinking their adorable cuteness Been picking up and cuddling new boys too and they're starting to realise I'm a harmless idiot who gives them a treat every time I do so.
Aug 3, 2018 15:37:15 GMT
scallywag: Thought they were GIrls ?
Aug 3, 2018 17:23:20 GMT
Gillykat: So did we scallywag Turns out, once I got them home, I checked and both are boys I'm VERY pleased about this cos I adore boy cats....always had absolute sweethearts of that sex in the past
Aug 4, 2018 10:07:36 GMT