Hi all , Only really ever use this to talk about my cats but I have an issue with one of my royals , his a fire morph about 8 months old but since I got him in August he has refused every meal I have tried everything rats ,mice, malters senting food with chicks , assisted feeding (he regurged) , head cutting the only thing I've not tried is live feeding & it's something I will not attempt as its inhuman to the animal . I've recently just brought some reptoboast to try help stimulate him but NOTHING is working Now I know from many years of experience royals can be a pain when it comes to eating but never have a come across one that is this stubborn he is empty his spin is showing his got a rectangle back & has lost 100g since I got him I'm at my wits end with what to do ! Any suggestions with be muchly appreciated
Sorry I have absolutely no knowledge of any pets that are in this area of the forum and the only person that springs to mind who may be able to chat to you is cat001 . Wish you well chelsea90 and hope this thread gets looked at soon
I know I'll be quite late replying to this thread (sorry) but i'll reply anyway as it may be useful information...
Unfortunately assisted feeding quite often results in regurgitation from a snake that's persistently unwilling to eat. I found an excellent video on the subject of force feeding some time ago which explains some important key points such as; when to do it, the procedure you need to follow, and highlights how stressful the process is so emphasises the importance of only doing this when absolutely necessary...
Excessive stress is dangerous and can cause more harm than good, because of the stressfulness of the process I'd recommend gavage feeding to such a debilitated animal as an alternative to feeding a whole prey item. Gavaging is less stressful, quicker and safer. I'd suggest discussing this with the vet, they will provide you with the equipment and a demonstration on the process as well as specific requirements for your snake (Emeraid Carnivore is fed 1/2% of body weight on day 1, 1% on day 2 and 2% on day 3 and there after - so amount fed is relative to body weight). The main danger with gavage feeding is accidentally putting the tube down the wind pipe instead of the oesophagus. This however, is difficult to do as the wind pipe is located at the very front of the mouth and usually closes when the mouth is open. Just double check before you begin syringing to make sure.
Young animals in particular require support as they lack the reserves of a mature animal so cannot go as long without eating. Seeing as the spine is beginning show I'd say intervention is certainly justified.
If the animal is dehydrated (loose skin) than it may require hydrating first (provide moist hide, water with reptoboost, possibly even baths). Make sure the animal is in a calm quite area to reduce stress as much as possible; plenty of hiding spots and coverage, is infrequently disturbed and only handled when necessary. Also make sure the temperatures are warm enough and if you have a lamp, put the basking spot up to a max of 35C, this can sometimes encourage a feeding response.
With gavage feeding, the solution won't be so much that the snake won't accept food if it's starting to return to normal, so you can still occasionally offer a mouse and the snake may choose to accept if it's feeling better. You can also see if you can get ahold of feeder gerbils as gerbils are more a natural prey item to Royal's than mice, and sometimes elicit a stronger feeding response.
caz2golden: On walk today saw a dead branch hanging from a tree over a road. Probably been there a while but have not noticed before! Who do you report it too, tree would be owned by whoever has the field but the branch is over highway?
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lotsofcats: I would report it to the local council's highway department.
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caz2golden: sick of poor weather
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scallywag: chucking it down here
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caz2golden: Had the drizzle etc yesterday, today was windy which has blown a load of young Manx Shearwaters onto the beaches Dumped a load on the beach cleaner (think we were up to 10 birds) and then I found another so took that to a place of safety!
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alfiemummy: I've been very lucky today - it chucked it down but only during my lunchtime!
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scallywag: That was when I got soaked thru thunder hail and lots of heavy rain , Beau was dragging me home LOL
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lotsofcats: We had very high winds during the night and I slept through it all but if Kobi had barked just once I would immediately be awake.
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caz2golden: We had the same here Lotsofcats, except I was awake for fair part of it. We had intermittent power cuts too. Felt sorry for the raw pet food delivery man the next morning who was probably coming across a lot of downed trees etc.
Sept 15, 2017 11:07:04 GMT
caz2golden: Frustrating here today, one moment looks lovely but before you have chance to go out it is overcast and drizzling again. Must find weather window for a dog walk!
Sept 15, 2017 11:08:13 GMT
scallywag: It was lovely and sunny here till 2pm then just as I was also getting ready to take Beau out it chucked it down and still is My washing did manage to get dried thou
Sept 15, 2017 14:41:31 GMT
caz2golden: Was ok here today. Dogs enjoyed zoomies session on grass at end of lead walk today, even Sophie tried to join in, making me have to run to encourage her to run too! Madness! Only sorry I could not video it.
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scallywag: Me toooo would like to see you running about Caz
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caz2golden: Should have seen me today trying to keep Sophie on course on the beach! lol
Sept 19, 2017 20:00:24 GMT
caz2golden: Back to being drowned rat at work! Now home and warming up.
Sept 20, 2017 14:05:39 GMT
scallywag: What about today Caz it looked to be very wet over there in the West , we have had sunshine here with a breeze , clouding over now but then we are due rain around 5pm onwards
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scallywag: Did you all get my PM ?
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