Hi all , Only really ever use this to talk about my cats but I have an issue with one of my royals , his a fire morph about 8 months old but since I got him in August he has refused every meal I have tried everything rats ,mice, malters senting food with chicks , assisted feeding (he regurged) , head cutting the only thing I've not tried is live feeding & it's something I will not attempt as its inhuman to the animal . I've recently just brought some reptoboast to try help stimulate him but NOTHING is working Now I know from many years of experience royals can be a pain when it comes to eating but never have a come across one that is this stubborn he is empty his spin is showing his got a rectangle back & has lost 100g since I got him I'm at my wits end with what to do ! Any suggestions with be muchly appreciated
Sorry I have absolutely no knowledge of any pets that are in this area of the forum and the only person that springs to mind who may be able to chat to you is cat001 . Wish you well chelsea90 and hope this thread gets looked at soon
I know I'll be quite late replying to this thread (sorry) but i'll reply anyway as it may be useful information...
Unfortunately assisted feeding quite often results in regurgitation from a snake that's persistently unwilling to eat. I found an excellent video on the subject of force feeding some time ago which explains some important key points such as; when to do it, the procedure you need to follow, and highlights how stressful the process is so emphasises the importance of only doing this when absolutely necessary...
Excessive stress is dangerous and can cause more harm than good, because of the stressfulness of the process I'd recommend gavage feeding to such a debilitated animal as an alternative to feeding a whole prey item. Gavaging is less stressful, quicker and safer. I'd suggest discussing this with the vet, they will provide you with the equipment and a demonstration on the process as well as specific requirements for your snake (Emeraid Carnivore is fed 1/2% of body weight on day 1, 1% on day 2 and 2% on day 3 and there after - so amount fed is relative to body weight). The main danger with gavage feeding is accidentally putting the tube down the wind pipe instead of the oesophagus. This however, is difficult to do as the wind pipe is located at the very front of the mouth and usually closes when the mouth is open. Just double check before you begin syringing to make sure.
Young animals in particular require support as they lack the reserves of a mature animal so cannot go as long without eating. Seeing as the spine is beginning show I'd say intervention is certainly justified.
If the animal is dehydrated (loose skin) than it may require hydrating first (provide moist hide, water with reptoboost, possibly even baths). Make sure the animal is in a calm quite area to reduce stress as much as possible; plenty of hiding spots and coverage, is infrequently disturbed and only handled when necessary. Also make sure the temperatures are warm enough and if you have a lamp, put the basking spot up to a max of 35C, this can sometimes encourage a feeding response.
With gavage feeding, the solution won't be so much that the snake won't accept food if it's starting to return to normal, so you can still occasionally offer a mouse and the snake may choose to accept if it's feeling better. You can also see if you can get ahold of feeder gerbils as gerbils are more a natural prey item to Royal's than mice, and sometimes elicit a stronger feeding response.
caz2golden: I am here, just not got anything important to write.
Jan 29, 2018 22:40:13 GMT
scallywag: neither do I Caz
Jan 29, 2018 23:14:20 GMT
scallywag: Morning cold frosty one here
Jan 30, 2018 7:16:40 GMT
caz2golden: Anyone seen the super blue blood moon tonight? I have not gone to look!
Jan 31, 2018 23:25:52 GMT
caz2golden: There is going to be really high tides on 2nd Feb!
Jan 31, 2018 23:26:29 GMT
scallywag: The moon here was very BIG and bright cant say that it was blue thou
Feb 1, 2018 8:26:49 GMT
scallywag: took photo of it at 5.30am when Beau had me up for a wee, will see if they are worth posting on here later
Feb 1, 2018 8:27:27 GMT
lotsofcats: I looked last night and moon looked no different but this morning it did look bigger and brighter but not a different colour.
Feb 1, 2018 14:48:00 GMT
scallywag: snow here this morning
Feb 4, 2018 10:08:21 GMT
caz2golden: Still no snow here . Wind is bitterly cold though! We have sun, need more days like this
Feb 4, 2018 14:40:37 GMT
caz2golden: No idea how I did it but seem to have woken up with cricked neck / pulled muscle. Unable to turn my head to the left or lift my head upwards! It is already really annoying me, pain killers not touched it!
Feb 4, 2018 14:42:31 GMT